They were saying about separation of power between the two entity. One roams around parliament and another greases the administrative machinery. The scientific term is osmosis when there is a phenomena of migration of denser portion to the lighter. A minister has a tendency to seep through and meddle with things. They ridicule people and search for monnaie. Tan Sri Musa just said a sentence of a long para. It is up to the others to read the rest.
